Gold Prestigium

Mancera Gold Prestigium EDP opens with a moderate projection of sweet, leather, oud, floral, and some citrus notes. The opening is fresh, elegant, refined, evocative of spring, delectable, and very pleasant. The bergamot is a passing note, a citrusy fresh touch that shows up for a brief moment. The vanilla, orange blossom, rose, leather, and oud are the opening most noticeable notes. The orange blossom and roses present themselves as mostly white florals but sweet with a citrusy touch, inoffensive, and pleasant. The oud and leather are also part of the opening, both create a very refined accord, far from animalic or pungent, but bold, elegant, and delicate. The opening oud in this fragrance is closer to the scent of a very refined dark wood as opposed to the musky oud found in oud-predominant fragrances. Similarly, the leather is very polished and noticeable. The vanilla is a delicious, sweet, cozy, comforting, aromatic, dessert-like note. The pepper, white musk, and oakmoss are support notes, they add a spicy, powdery musky, and soft mossy accord. The fragrance is linear, all featured notes come up as soon as the fragrance is applied and continue into the dry down. Once Mancera Gold Prestigium EDP has reached its full dry down, it can be summarized as a moderate projection, sweet, vanilla, orange blossom, leather, and oud fragrance with rose, white musk, and mossy accords. The fragrance feels casual, clean, comforting, cozy, creamy, delectable, dense, diurnal, elegant, exotic, expensive, white citrusy floral, fresh, high-quality, intense, inviting, leathery, mature, modern, oudy, playful, polished, slightly powdery, refined, refreshing, rich, romantic, seductive, sweet, unisex, versatile, white, zesty, and very pleasant. BATCH REVIEWED: 2020 (#18010D) WOW RATING: 10/10. An impressive, elegant, inviting, sweet, white floral, leather, and oud. DISLIKE RATING: 2/10. The leather and oud are noticeable but both are tone-down and polished. UNIQUENESS: 10/10. The combination of notes creates a unique scent. MASS APPEAL: 8/10. This is a fragrance that most people will enjoy. PROJECTION: 6/10. Excellent, about 6 feet around the wearer. SILLAGE: 10/10. Excellent, about 10 feet after the wearer. APPLICATION: 4 atomizations. SEASONS: Winter, spring, fall, colder days, daytime, nighttime, and climate-controlled environments. OCCASIONS: Formal events, outdoor gatherings, office, business, casual, holidays, vacations, romantic, dating, clubbing. This is an office-friendly fragrance. VERSATILITY: 9/10. A highly versatile fragrance, ideal for almost any weather and occasion. GENDER: Unisex. The orange blossoms create a white floral slightly citrusy accord, with a slight feminine touch, on the other hand, the oud and leather have a slightly masculine character. The vanilla blends both notes. The result is a unisex fragrance. AGES: 30 and above. RECOMMENDATION: Mancera Gold Prestigium EDP can be found for about $75. It is a unique, impressive, versatile, and very elegant fragrance, ideal for mature wearers. This is a great buy. BLIND-BUY: No, sample it first. SIMILAR: These are examples of fragrances in the same genre. Dior Purple Oud is a good, but challenging, intense, slightly sweet, oud, and spicy fragrance; Juicy Couture Dirty English EDT Men is a faint, slightly sweet, woody, and leather fragrance; Mancera Black Gold EDP is a great, mild, woody, leather, floral, lavender, violet, jasmine, spicy, cinnamon, and nutmeg fragrance; Montale Dark Purple Women EDP is a strong projection, sweet, rose, delicious fruity plum, and white musk fragrance; Scentstory 24 For Men is a good, soft, pepper, anise, oud, and mossy fragrance; Xerjoff More Than Words is a very good, oud, sweet, fruity, floral, and ambergris fragrance; Mancera Gold Prestigium EDP is a superb, sweet, vanilla, orange blossom, leather, and oud fragrance. SUMMARY: a moderate projection, sweet, vanilla, orange blossom, leather, and oud fragrance with rose, white musk, and mossy accords. The fragrance feels casual, clean, comforting, cozy, creamy, delectable, dense, diurnal, elegant, exotic, expensive, white citrusy floral, fresh, high-quality, intense, inviting, leathery, mature, modern, oudy, playful, polished, slightly powdery, refined, refreshing, rich, romantic, seductive, sweet, unisex, versatile, white, zesty, and very pleasant.

Oh... Oh word?! Well, after what felt like a thousand-year hiatus of not reviewing anything for two years and itching to shares some thoughts, I finally came back to do some more reviews on fragrances. But to put it lightly... With this one... I am absolutely HEAD. OVEr. HeELs. This thing... This Mancera juice... Really, reeeally scares me. I feel like come next payday I won’t be able to stop me from buying backups. It’s just. That. Good. Period. I had a hard time placing what this one smells like because to me on my skin this smelled like two distinct things. One being a fragrance I love, and the other being an allergy medicine. Straight up smells like YSL L’homme Parfum Intense lost its innocence (the cherry bubblegum) and got some balls (Oud? Probably an accord) - How? Because I detect that same bergamot, orange blossom, pepper trio amongst other beautiful things that exists in the dry-down of Parfum Intense... There I said it... Go try it you’ll see what I mean - that scent doesn’t get the love it should. Sorry but YSL L’homme Parfum Intense it’s still one of my favorites for sentimental reasons (Guilty pleasure) ... That note trio has this sophisticated syrupy smoothness that kind of resembles... Wait for it... Cherry flavored NyQuil.... Yeah. Why do I want to smell like cough syrup/sleep aid? I don’t know, maybe because as a kid I use to love getting sick just so mom could feed me the stuff. What? It tasted good people. What else... Lasts forever Projects a foot or two Every waft’s a blessing Smells like a jet Done. I’m out... 9.5/10

A remarkably affable floral/leather/vanilla fragrance that projects super well and lasts forever. Would you expect anything else from Mancera? Refined, but not overly sophisticated. Very approachable. You could rock it with dark jeans, chelsea boots, and a blazer, or faded jeans and a crisp white shirt and white leather sneakers with equal aplomb. All season, except I'd avoid in the high heat. Summer evenings, fall, spring or winter, any occasion, though it's so beautiful you might wanna save it for special occasions. Then again, for niche, it's inexpensive enough to wear anytime. The top notes of pepper, oud, and bergamot are subtle, but provide some lift and depth for the florals (rose and orange blossom) and the sweet, vanilla-balsamic base. Even though it's vanilla, oak moss, leather, and musk, the overall impression, to my nose is sweet and balsamic, maybe even a bit resinous, not unlike benzoin or labdanum. The bottom line: this is a gorgeous vanilla-centric perfume that can be worn by either men or women, all season, all occasion, and so, so good! 9/10

Feed a bottle of Le Male some steroids and this is it. I'm not sure why, but on me it becomes a beast-mode version of Le Male by Gautier. There is a fresh, peppery-lime scent at the initial blast, turning into a sweet "bubble gum"scent made out of the rose/vanilla/leather/orange/oud. That's the best I can describe it--it's like high-end, designer bubble gum, not the stuff you find at the checkout in gas stations. Pleasant. Sweet. Fruity. Flowery. Adjectives that describe an aspect, but not the whole. It isn't cloying or obnoxious, rather rounded and enticing. Gold Prestigium is something to test before buying. Not an "old"scent, but not "young", it isn't passed, nor hip, nor displeasing. It is best described as "nice". I'd consider it sexy, others might not. NICE n' SEXY. On others this might become something else, but on me it is industrial-strength Le Male. Fragrance 9/10 Longevity 10/10 Sillage 9/10 Bottle Design 9/10 FINAL SCORE.... 9/10

Amazing fragrance but would not recommend blind buy I don't get the leathery note other s have mentioned. But definitely fruity, slightly sweet (but not overpowering) maybe even a bit floral too (maybe that rose and orange blossom come through stronger for me). If you prefer a very manly, or strong leather scent, then maybe try (don't blind buy) Bentley for Men Intense. For a lighter leather frag John Varvatos Dark Rebel. Getting back to Mancera's Gold Prestigium though... Just WOW!!!! Nice looking bottle too, comes in it's own carry pouch in the box too. Also, as mentioned by JoyAmin in his youtube review, just watch that you don't try to screw the cap on too tight or it may wear out the thread. Yeah this an amazing frag but maybe not for everyone Fragrance 10/10 Longevity 10/10 Bottle Design 9/10

On point ELEGANT. Very beautiful sweet floral masculine. Not too loud not too quiet. Not too cloying and not too sharp. So beautiful. Fantastic trio blend of Vanilla, neroli, and rose. I get the gucci guilty comparison because of its sweetness and freshness. 0% like Gold intensitive aoud. This is absolutely different. Gold intensitive aoud smells a bit like bleach and copper coins. This one is a crowd pleaser and hard to hate, but it's potency or when oversprayed might put someone off. This is a versatile frag leaning cold weather. Smells like a classy, handsome, quiet rich kid on a party waiting for his driver riding a benz. Can easily be a club scent too.

One of the most beautiful openings from Mancera (Gold Incense is on that list too). This scent is so lovely to me, I just wish it was stronger because I am addicted to it. It literally smells like a spiced vanilla creamsicle! I own the whole prestigium line, which all are fantastic; and while this isn't my overall favorite (that goes to black prestigium), it is unequivocally the most beautiful! Blind buy safe in my book, underrated, undeniably sexy/beautiful, perfectly unisex. This is my wife's favorite one I own, she always makes mention of it. 9/10

Seeing that vanilla was so highly noted in the 'main notes' section, I expected this to be sweeter but it's not. The sweetness from the vanilla is balanced nicely with the oakmoss, leather, and pepper. The oud is light and is akin to the oud in Aoud Vanille (synthetic but nice). This is one of the few that tic all the boxes for male, female, spring, summer, fall, winter, day, and night. Longevity and sillage are both very good if not great. You CAN overspray this one for what that's worth.

Fruity, Vanilla, floral with a hint of leather. While I was trying 40 different fragrences yesterday from Nishane/Xerjoff/Mancera and Creed this and Sultan Vetiver where my stand-outs. It's soft and sweet yet masculine and I think it can be worn anywhere at any time. May become my signature, and I strongly recommend everybody tries this because it's a 8/10 for me (Performance is insane as always)

I finally got my hands on this and I am impressed. Its so smooth and well balanced. The orange blossom and bergamont really stand out to me but they are supported by the heavier notes of light oud and vanilla. Its so nice. The word that keeps coming to my head is SMOOTH. Its so smooth and well polished and i can see this being used all year and most occassions. For me a 8.5/10 :)

Orange blossom and rose really come out and the vanilla make it pop! Then a splash of the Oud and leather top it off on my skin. I've been wearing this for 2 years plus and only used a 1/4 of the bottle lol. I have a large rotation 😎. This is simply beautiful coming from the women and men that have smelled this aroma radiating off my beautiful brown skin ❤️.

can i marry this fragrance?what a beautiful lady...it smells like highest heavens....unisex for sure...no major oud in the development just a slight hint, like eric hill said, it could be anyone's wedding day scent, dating scent and also wearable all year round.very long lasting but not beast mode projector, love it.another 10/10 fragrance...easy :)

I get a mix of appealing floral notes and a less candied, citrus-light Aoud Lemon Mint. Very versatile, inoffensive, and classy fragrance for men (provided that you're OK with floral accords).

Very nice smell. I would even say it is more feminine, but I still like it and women love it too. If you like sweet scents, pepper, rose/vanilla, this is for you.

So good so potent plus mine is 2023 batch with magnetic cap longevity 10+ hours projection loud ,smell mix like aoud blue notes and aoud lemon mint but unique.

Very nice, just sampled it, only the second Mancera I like after Cedrat Boise

My favorite Mancera! It smells very fruity and leathery at the same time!

Beautifully unisex!!! A must try!

I have black prestigium so I wanted gold prestigium to try out. It is not like the black one, it is less formal and more unisex. It is sweet peppery at beginning then you get florals orange blossom and rose combo really good, sweetness, the leather is not strong whatsoever. I get sweet floral musky scent no oud at all to my nose. It is a very pleasant scent it’s not a freshy but can be used in summer months with moderation due to sweetness. In my opinion it is very very unisex it doesn’t lean to either side. It is very versatile in my opinion, it is not a traditional designer scent type. You need to be comfortable wearing this types of scents but this one is very friendly if you are starting to get into this type of scents. On my skin it doesn’t have a beast projection or longevity compared to other manceras like black prestigium that one is a beast. But still a good fragrance to wear. It is kind of linear as it doesn’t change that much and for many it might be a great thing. It is on the softer side of the mancera spectrum but compared to other traditional scents this one exceeds in performance.

Hell yeah, another piece to Mancera collection. For men maybe eccentric at the begining but after hour is it awesome flower fruity vanilla mix.. why dont smell quite different. Unfortunately it leans to feminine side at the begining. It can be unwearable for some men. But after one hour start nice unisex floral bubble gummy vanilla bomb with clean oud in backround. I get some similarities with Aoud Lemon Mint and little bit Boggart Deep Silver (orange blossom). Its good mix with specific spirit. Not the same, only resemblance... I try to describe by finding some a similar scent. Projection and longevity is on standard Mancera level, above avarage. But not beast mode, thank god!!! because it will be weapon of mass destruction. Cant recommend for blind buy for men. It will be better test first. For women its a safe blind buy. Scent: 7/10 Projection: 8/10 Longevity: 8/10 Versatility: 9/10 (spring, winter, fall, day, night. For special occassion, daily, date, office. Not for summer) Unisex, leans to feminine first hour Overall: 8/10 I bought it for 50 euros, dont regret!

Gold Prestigium is a beautiful, refined, well blended, dense sweet floral mancera classic that is very unisex suited for fall and winter and formal and semi formal situations i guess. Only go one or two sprays if in an office situation, its a beast mode fragrance and projects the whole day and into the night. You will still smell it after a shower. If you are a man who can wear dior homme intense, you will probably like this one if you wish to trade iris for rose and dabble with oud. Cerat Boisee and Hindu Kush are more the versitile manceras. Gold Presigium is your dress up scent that will get you noticed. I would not wear it on a first date though. It will likely outshine her scent. I love it. And ill let you into a secret, layer it with dior farenheit.... OMG its next level! Overall 4.2/5.

Another excellent offering from Mancera and one of those perfumes that smell MUCH much better from distance than directly off the skin. It's too sweet if you bury your nose in the skin, but sooo classy and sexy when you catch a whiff in the air while moving around. Very long lasting and even though it's not a beastmode projector by Mancera standards, it's still stronger than majority of competitors. To be honest I like it that way, otherwise would be too offensive to the people around you. With just two sprays I got so many compliments when going out and that's hours after applying. Bottle worthy no doubt. People that are having issues with projection are probably going nose blind from overspraying. You have to have extremely dry skin to soak up juice that oily.

It is NOT a leather scent. Don't go by description. It's a vanilla fragrance. Got it for a steal deal @50$ . Opening is quite misleading with sweet, peppery rose and white florals. Even smells like jasmine which isn't listed. Smells much better on skin, than test strip or clothes. After 15 mins or so, vanilla starts to take over. In 30 mins it is mostly peppery vanilla with slight hints of oud and leather, here and there. Dry down is sweet vanilla. Projection is moderate but lasting power is good. Opening is more masculine, dry down is more feminine. Try to bear first 15/ 20 mins if you love sweet frags. Quite versatile. Overall 8/ 10.

Definitely one of the better Manceras I've tried. The oud is not overwhelming here and it mixes nicely with the orange blossom, which I find to be the most dominant note. Drydown is smooth with vanilla and leather. I definitely agree with the users saying that the sillage of this smells much better than if you just stick your nose into it. IMO this leans just a tad feminine for me but I could definitely see a guy pulling it off. It's a really high-quality and classy fragrance with, of course, beastly performance.

I have jusr bought my second bottle after the first in 2019. They are very similar although i think the second is a little softer, muskier perhaps. The oud may be dialed back a little. Both formulations are the same well blended fragrance and the slight difference with the current formulation makes it more wearable to me in warmer weather. With Rose, orange blosson, musk with oud in support as the main players... Whats not to like about this very unisex fragrance.

Wow, this one is insane.. At least, on my skin it’s nuclear. It’s very sweet, classy, floral, mature. Super strong stuff. Definitely feminine. I really like it. Very sweet. It reminds me a bit of gautier woman. But this is higher quality. A crowd pleaser, and hard to hate. A save blind buy 9/10

Opens very clean, almost metallic and fresh spicy It dries into a leather scent that is still very clean and polished, like a freshly brushed suede Accompanied by some florals and vanilla that are really there just to enhance the cleanliness of the leather and not stand out on its own

Very nice scent. Great for spring. Performaces r same as all Manceras. Similar to Aoud Blue Notes. Ez blind buy. Worth money. My Mancera no 10 in collection.

A clean lightly vanilla’d floral perfume, nothing to write home about. Still pretty good.

one of the best in mancera 9 / 10

This is an absolutely beautiful fragrance. That being said, give it some wears and get accustomed to it. It does slightly lean feminine initially but I couldn’t care less. I don’t know why, but I am reminded of champagne, or some type of alcohol in that same vein, in the immediate opening or if you smell the atomizer. The dry down is where this fragrance to me is most appealing. The femininity in it dies down slightly and becomes much more wearable for a man. It smells freaking gorgeous. Sprayed it on my skin and shirt after an early evening shower, was projecting off my shirt the next morning for hours. My gf even said what cologne did you just spray it smells really good. Had to tell her I sprayed it the day before (if that’s worth anything). The oud isn’t loud or really overly noticeable. You get the orange blossom and the very polarizing opening, but the magical dry down of that vanilla and leather tied in with some of the feminine beginnings makes this a beautiful unisex fragrance. I absolutely love this and recommend it to both male and female. Safe all year round, but be smart on super hot days. Either easy trigger or just make a more suitable selection. If you have this, you probably have a decent collection of more fitting choices for 90+ weather. Could see this being most attractive on a woman, however men, please do not hesitate on this if you’re cool with tip toeing the line confidently. You’ll be happy you did.

#257 in my "Tour de Fragrance" So, have you ever sprayed something, and your brain immediately says, "I've smelled this before, but what was it?" Closest I can come off the top of my head is if you combined something super powdery like Dior Homme with Swiss Arabian's Shaghaf Oud Aswad. I really like the opening, but the dry down is pretty much powder, florals and a pinch of leather. The other notes are gone in minutes, except for a hint of artificial fruitiness, a note that is a tad off-putting for me, almost like someone mixed in some Kool Aid. So I'll put this in the rotation, but I won't get more of this when this bottle used up unless the compliments roll in. No one will be offended or overwhelmed, and it is safe wear for any occasion, but there are many Mancera scents you should choose over this.

Bubblegum'y, rosy. It's definitely not a vanilla fragrance as the main accords suggest. Dries down to a slightly more masculine musk with a faint vanilla note, exposing the orange blossom a little more. The oud is very faint. Overall, this smells like a classic floral female fragrance with a not-so-satysfying bubblegum twist and a drydown that seems to be an attempt to make the frag available to guys. Definitely not for men, but I wouldn't turn my head around if I smelled it on a woman too.

It smells oriental, I am not quite aware of oriental parfums though.. On top it is nicely sweet, vanilish and just a little flowerish, but it is topped with strong oud, that I dont like. I would like it without the oud. It also has woody tones that remind me of joss sticks. The oud is strong really only first several minutes after spray. Then its very subtle with leather vanila cinamon drydown in this order by strength.

A messy and confused blend of citrus, vanilla, oud, spices, and florals, starring an unnecessarily jammy rose. Touted as unisex but to my nose it's quite feminine. I wouldn't see myself ever wearing this, and even for women I would say there are better options. At least it's not as intolerable as other Mancera/Montale offerings.

too strong for me and leans towards female scent. i dont know what kind of guy can pull this off, wore twice and couldnt anymore

My main reason of buying this was , hard to get, smells decent (will write more about this coming days) & pretty long lasting . There are very few perfumes in this range now days that lasts more than 8 hours & this is one of them ( it lasts more than Lemon line i got few days back). More suited for cold days . Unisex for sure . EDIT : this is so much similar to Aoud Orchid except the peach note returned my bottled . Dry down is very generic !!!

Flowers and vanilla with some mild oud and leather. Sweet and the leather makes it a little pungent. Actually not so animalic even though it has both oud and leather. I do not like leather. Especially when combined with sweetness like in this fragrance. So it has to be a dislike from me. A bit cloying.

I ended up giving this to one of my partners as she liked it and agreed it was more feminine-leaning. Maybe its the orange blossom? I didn't detect much oud out of this one either, which is part of the reason I bought this. Not a bad fragrance, just a poor fit for me.

Well, sure this is a very nice scent BUT I must say I'm quite disappointed. I have tried around 20 montale/mancera fragrances buy now and I was expecting a much more exclusive and a different scent then all the rest. This is soo similar to many of their other offerings, they use the same base and recipe and just change a little bit here and there, and marketing with a new name so people run out and buy it. They make a profit! Same rose, same vanilla, same fruit, same oud just in different amounts and combinations. This is like a mix of Red aoud, white aoud and Gold Intensive aoud with a hint of Sweet Vanille. I propably couldn't tell the difference if somone around me wore any of them. I actually like all these scents per se, but I'm happy with my samples of 2 ml. I think it leans more feminine and maybe it won't appeal to most men but it can definitely be unisex also. I would never compare this to Le Male like somone below did, can't see that at all. But maybe that's because I only see the similarties to Red and White aoud.

I just buy this today and try, for the scent is so beautiful and is really perfectly unisex but compare to other mancera and montale this first opening the projection is not that punchy like cedrat boise aoud lemon mint but i still can detect the scent only in the room with aircon. For me scent is 9/10 for projection and sillage maybe i give 7/10 for longevity i not yet got it but if type of projection like this maybe will stay around 7-8 hours max This type scent i can say is polite& perfectly for date, formal occasion, family gathering. Is not for clubbing or friends hangout. Not for hot heat type of scent, not for users dont like floral scent maybe can feel feminim but for me is perfectly unisex

This is probably the best mancera, it smells really close to nishane nefs. I'm not saying it's a clone but it really feels like it could be a flanker of nefs. The opening is a bright blast of honey ( I know its not listed as a note but that's what I get) with some florals and a backbone of leather but it's not very prominent, very similar to the nefs opening. As it dries down that vanilla and musk come out it still smells pretty much the same as the opening. 10/10 for me and it will always have a place in my collection

I really like this. I’m wearing it in pretty cold weather right now, and the most prominent notes I’m getting is the vanilla and leather. It’s hard for me to detect a bunch of notes at once, so that’s probably why. When I first sprayed it awhile back, it smelled masculine because of the leather. It dries down very nicely, and then it’s a lovely sweet vanilla fragrance, very feminine, but still with the leather and other notes. Very wearable. I hope to purchase a bottle soon

Opens with a big hit of floral orange, vanilla, leather and rose. The oud is soft, and non-offensive and blends well with the orange blossom and rose. The feeling is bold, floral, bubblegum citrus and warm rosy leather. The dry down gets sweeter and more rose centered, but stays just slightly masculine. Great for cold weather, but would make a perfect holiday fragrance also. Transitions well throughout the wear in a constantly evolving experience, and is always interesting.

starts off with peppery, spicy, sweetish and aromatic..very faint floral note with a tinge of similarity of Aoud lemon mint (also mancera), i dont know why but i get it (Aoud lemon mint is one of my favourites). Dry down with more flowery notes and oud , unisex but still masculine to me on the dry down. Good longevity, no problem if its a blind buy.. mancera rating 8/10. (2hrs later... why i did smell a hint of V&R spicebomb extreme?)

This is a first wear review: I half have fallen in love with this scent. There is something in it that is very addicting. But, there is also something in here that smells medicinal to my nose. I will be investigating this scent further. Gold Prestigium's longevity holds water with my other Mancera and lasts until I shower/wash my clothes.

Strange; I get slightly spiced, green soapy woods. A little lotion-y; but mostly a white floral / hints of lily or neroli, not sure and woods of course. Rose, meh, maybe. It's greeny Just got bored of it fast to be honest; and oud is always not my style and it does of course lend it's medicinal slant here,sorry My rating: 4/10

The smell is sophisticated and sweet but not too sweet to be cloying. Good for summer night, cold weather or in a temp-controlled environment like in the office. I dont smell leather in here much more the oud. maybe a hint of our but mostly in the background, very faint and light oud. One the best from mancera.

Notalarda derinin önde çıktığına bakmayın. Hâkim olan koku oud-deri karışımı. Oldukça başarılı şekilde harmanlandiklari ortada. Vanilya biraz daha az olsa daha karakterli olurdu diye düşünüyorum. Vanilya gereksiz bir şekerli havası veriyor. Kalıcılık güçlü ve parfüm ilk 2 saat içinde resmen bağırıyor.

Nice scent with some designer qualities to it. Doesn't suit my personal taste but I can see why others would like it a lot. Sophisticated and refined. I'm not getting a lot of leather but maybe my definition of leather has been permanently changed by Tuscan Leather.