Versace L'Homme

oof this one is a stinker in a good way. the dirty bitter citrus opening can put you off. you have to learn to love it. but i wont blame you if you give up there. it still manages to be soapy after that, it's all in the dry down but it takes a while before it gets there. very mature clean green barbershop oakmoss and it develops even further into radiating leather fresh woody aura that sticks to the skin for quite a while. its strong af, i can understand why people say its a cold weather scent but this frag embodies the 80s hawaii shirt wearing cuban gangster in miami with a gold chain and hairy chest. people prob wore this in the summer back then without any fucks given. and it probably had a way stronger oakmoss back then. unapologetically masculine and daring scent. but its great if you lookin for smth else than modern mass pleasing stuff n wanna try some 80s scents and wanna be challenged a little. id only recommend it for exploring scents. its also genuinely complex but wont bluntly say its a amazing frag.. i like it cuz of of how weird it is. i'd be curious how a modern take on this would feel like cuz i genuinely think if they refined it just a lil bit to fit modern standards id be great. i feel like back then parfumery was more about makin powerful scents to go thru all the cigarette smoke from indoor public places. heavy dose of carnation u dont smell that anywhere. i never wear it outside cuz i had people be quite repulsed by it before it fully settled into the dry down lol. i exclusively wear it at home. gta vice city in a bottle. time machine pro tip: spray it bit further i found that this way the soapy quality comes out more. the atomizer is rlly good you want it cover more than be concentrated in one spot VINTAGE BOTTLE COMPARISON FROM THE 80s: i got my self a vintage bottle and these are the main points of differences - the modern bottle has a lot fresher lemon opening and less bitter initial spray. the basil in the older formulation is more pronounced giving it a pepper naunce and overall just much more greener vibe that the newer lacks. petitgrain in the modern formulation is also more forwarded - both still retain a soapiness in the background but the modern is a lot more fresher so it gives a overall cleaner vibe - in the mid the carnation / cinnamon patchouli push forward the most in both but the carnation in the older one is a lot more life like and less stinky. i can also pick up on the rose a lot more. the patchouli is also more earthy while being softer and the cinnamon is warmer n bit powdery. the modern formulation relies heavily on soft cedars / and much more patchouli with a lot spicier earthier carnation. - however the mid in the newer formulation lasts much longer before the stronger base notes show up. on my left hand the vintage lets the oakmoss and leather meet the middle much sooner before the modern formulation. also the leather is a lot more textured... reminds me of a classic leather barbershop seat. oakmoss here is pre restrictions so im picking a much more mossy/earthy/inkiness that is not present in the modern. overall the vintage has way more warmer ambers and smoother under tones of vanilla and tonka that round everything up. the modern is lot more scratchier around the edges hands down the vintage takes it. its so smooth. the florals were much more lively it also has a much more masculine musky radiation. the oakmoss is more present and the leather realistic. everything just plays together so nicely. when they both become skin scents, for the vintage you are able to pick up on it long after the modern went to sleep. overall the newer formulation seems tad more synthetic relying too much on patchouli to do the heavy lifting. while the vintage is funnily enough way more wearable than what you are able to buy now. so my initial imagination above was completely wrong. the oakmoss ban was not gentle on it... it relied so heavily on it ill be honest and say that the modern is but a sketch of the original painting but still alright

Versace L'Homme is one of my favorite fragrances of all time but it took a while to get to that point. My initial encounter with L'Homme was with the recent reformulation, 4/26/2021 batch in the black box. Ended up picking up a tester bottle for $20 on FragNet after reading about it on the Pour Monsieur blog (which is an invaluable resource just like Raiders of the Lost Scent when it comes to older fragrances). I've only seen it occasionally at local discounters like TJ Maxx, Marshall's, Burlington, etc. You don't find fragrances like this anymore unless you go niche and you know what you're looking for in the first place. The initial spray is a bit shocking if you're not prepared for it. It's got a lemon-y tinge to it, but it's sharp and kind of pissy for a bit. I initially hated it but I learned to love it because the drydown is where things get good. When it dries down, it mellows out into this woody, green, and spicy lemon scent. After a while, it has almost like a sweet lemon gingerbread cookie vibe to it that lasts at least 8 or so hours on my skin. I don't really see a comparison to Bogart One Man Show or YSL Kouros. The Chanel Pour Monsieur and Dunhill for Men comparison is more apt, I suppose. It's very alluring but rough around the edges. It punches way above the $20 asking price. I ended up getting a few backup bottles. However, after wearing it off and on for a year, I realized I wasn't giving it as much love compared to other scents in my collection although I loved how it smelled post-drydown. After reading a bunch of posts on here and other sites mentioning to try out the vintage, I ended up buying a 50ml bottle with the brown box, thin text after seeing it on eBay for a reasonable price. The most noticeable difference between the original formulation and the reformulation: Smoothness. Pure silky smoothness because of the oakmoss and treemoss. The opening, which was offputting in the reform, was tamed significantly and even became enjoyable! The drydown is a lot fuller and fluffier, with a bit more of an emphasis on the lemon and the spiciness. Ended up buying 10 more bottles of the vintage after wearing this. It's *that* good. Both formulations have around the same longevity: 8 to 12 hours depending on weather and ambient room temperature on two sprays. For the love of god, just don't overspray it. One to two sprays is all you need, pleasant, and tolerable to others, dependent on your climate. A key question is: Is buying vintage better than buying the reformulation that's a lot more readily available? It depends on what you're looking for. I'd recommend buying the reformulation first and seeing if it's something that'll work well for you. I found that by trying the reformulation first and then getting my nose on the vintage, I have a greater appreciation for both. Most reformulations of fragrances of yesteryear get absolutely butchered, straying away from what made them smell as good as they did either out of cost-cutting measures, IFRA regulations or because the perfume house wants to 'modernize' things. Being able to reformulate an older fragrance and have it smell pretty close to what it used to with just with a few tweaks and changes is something I respect. Versace L'Homme is a good example of it, just like modern bottles of Guerlain Mitsouko EDP and Chanel Antaeus. Pure class and individuality in a bottle. Get your nose on this, the sillage is heavenly.

This city is old, very old, la città vecchia. It was first settled by the Greeks, Neapolis, the new city has stood in splendid defiance of the fires of Hades for thousands of years. Fires which could sweep it away in a roaring flash. Vesuvius glowers green and gorgeous as it rises nearly out of the heart of this city. The walls of the houses of Naples are ancient and burnished with the patina of history and war. It looks old and at times dirty but it is proud and enduring. And at night this city is the very heart of Italian amore! Una notte a Napoli says it all. One night in Naples With the moon and the sea I met an angel He could no longer fly One night in Naples Of the stars he forgot And even without wings Took me to heaven And the men of Naples are indeed angelic, they have what all Italians possess, style with a capital “S”. Only in Naples it is more so. With death the ever present mistress of these men, the men of Naples tread beneath the killer of Pompeii and carry themselves like kings. They dress with an elegant élan and walk like indolent big cats as the leave the ancient houses to take a passagata in the evening. Even the poorest men of the city dress well. It must be in the blood to always look so great. There is no fashion runway like it in the world as they stroll with their ladies though the streets of the city. Not even Versace can do these Neapolitans one better. The only thing I can think of when I wear Versace L’Homme is of these incredible men of Naples. Versace L’Homme might have been created with men such as these in mind when it was launched in 1986. This was the height of the power fragrance for men, bombs of scent that demanded attention. If too many opposing power bombs met up in a club there could be blood. What stands out about this predominantly leather fragrance is how restrained it is in its opening of lemon, petite grain, basil and Italian pimento. In this 80’s age of gold chained hairy chested panache Versace L’Homme comes in easy and with great style. This gives the fragrance timelessness to me. This is Versace before Donatella took us all to the gladiatorial arena. This is not for the moment, for boys who like the flash and drama of a passing fad. This is a well made Italian suit for a man of substance and taste. The center of this fragrance develops with roses in a patchouli patch sprinkled with cinnamon and cedar shavings and infused with sandlewood. The effect is Pepper! The leather comes up from behind and wraps you in a well made and comfortable jacket. The leather was rubbed with labdanum, and Tonka oil. In the breast pocket you will find a bit of smoky Oakmoss and a few vanilla beans. The passagata of Versace L’Homme lasts around five to seven hours and like its louder friends at the club it has very good silage. But this one will not grab you by the silk tie and shake you for attention. This sly sexy guy enters the room with true and impressive grace that beckons the senses with true Italian style, much like l'uomo da Napoli/ FIVE GOLD STARS *****

One of my favorites, very underrated. Citrusy, herbal, leathery. I detect something animalic that may turn some off, but it’s pretty inoffensive and doesn't punch you in the face. This is probably the closest thing to an animalic scent that I can enjoy (even though animalic isn't listed anywhere in the profile). Opens with a sharp, zesty, herbal citrus blast and dries down to smooth, creamy, lemony. Leather is present from start to finish. Nothing sweet here even in the vanilla and tonka bean I detect in the base- this one is masculine all the way. Very versatile, could be worn with something dressy or just jeans and a t-shirt. Also versatile in terms of seasonal wearability, I’d say it’s better suited for fall and winter, but I will wear this any time other than hot summer days and I wouldn't hesitate to wear it in the spring or on a summer night. I also feel like you will smell different notes when you wear this during different seasons. Pretty good longevity, I get about 6 hours from this, projection is decent. If you’re a fan of drakkar, polo green, polo crest, or any other old school or barbershop type fragrances then this is definitely worth a try. This is actually pretty similar to polo crest now that I think about it. I wasn’t exactly in love with Versace L’homme at first, but this scent quickly grew on me and I find myself wearing it a lot and will always keep a bottle of it. Definitely old school, young folks will probably think this smells “old”- if you’re under 25, I think there’s a pretty decent likelihood that you won’t like this (unless that’s your thing). Not like any of the other Versace fragrances so don’t think this is going to smell like modern releases from Versace (it doesn't smell like any older Versace fragrances either, actually). Versace L’homme is also an excellent value as well at around $20USD per 3.4oz/100ml bottle for a good quality natural smelling fragrance. I could see this being pretty polarizing and I think you’ll probably either love or hate it (can’t really imagine anyone being unsure about whether or not they like this one), but if this is in your wheelhouse it will most likely become one of your favorites. Overall: 8.5/10 Scent: 8.5/10 Longevity: 8/10 Projection: 7/10 Value: 10/10

Many may disagree but I believe it’s a masterpiece! I own the modern formulation and the vintage Giver Spa formulation. Clean lemony fresh opening but not in the juicy lemon manner. More in a green and bitter herbal manner. Then it dries down into an addictive blend of florals and woods very slightly sweetened by cinnamon. The modern is great but the vintage is even better. The opening on the modern formula I can see why people find it unbearable and unpleasant. As it smells more synthetic with a bit of bathroom lemon cleaner smell. Chris from Scent Land describes it as a male bathroom smell. When I let the new bottle sit for a month I notice the fragrance becomes smoother and less synthetic smelling. The dry down however is amazing and worth the wait. On the other hand the vintage Giver Spa formulation is incredible from top to bottom. It is richer, smoother and with more depth. Every time I sniff it I think to myself: why do I need any other fragrance? It lifts my mood every time I wear it. I see many comments saying it smells like piss. Maybe it’s their body chemistry not working with this fragrance or they are not letting the fragrance develop and drydown. For the folks that dislike the modern version I urge you to at least try the vintage giver spa version before completely knocking it. Those folks may not believe it but it is my most complemented fragrance. It somehow works great with my body chemistry. I get more compliments when I wear this, from all ages, both women and men than any modern fragrance I have worn. I will continue to buy the vintage until they are all gone or prices become unreasonable. When that day happens I will gladly move on and continue buying the modern formula.

@MitHsur If you're looking to go deep vintage (1984 to 1995), brown box with thin-letter text on the front is what you're looking for. You'll see "Made in Italy, Versace Profumi spa" with the earliest, without a USA distributor listed. As the late 80's rolls by, you're going to see "GIVER spa", or "VERSACE PROFUMI spa" , or "VEPRO spa" starting to show up. The distributor should be "VEPRO USA" for those. There shouldn't be any text on the back of the box and the ingredients will be on the side. Later boxes closer to 1995 will have a sticker that has a more detailed list of ingredients, at least from my experience with the 1.6oz bottle I have. 1995 is when a major reformulation happened and the text shifted over to "GIVER Spa" and "VERSACE PROFUMI USA" (US distributor). The thin lettering got phased out and a thicker one that's Versace's current logo replaced it. Occasionally you'll find the thick-text box, but inside will be a thin-text bottle. Sometimes if you buy multiple bottles of these, they'll come in a multipack box that has the thin lettering on it too. It's kind of interesting. Late 90's to 2005, you'll see the thick text brown box, but the back of the box will have the long list of ingredients on it. These are the ones you're going to find in decent supply on eBay or similar. I've found that there isn't too much of a difference between the 1995 to 2005 formulations besides a bit of tweaks to the opening. Hope this helps.

Has a fresh, herbal and warm green opening, some bitter florals as well. Very well blended, it's shower-fresh but without being blue, very pleasant to smell overall and could easily be an every-day scent, but also fitting for a special occasion. I personally get mostly bitter herbs, petitgrain and florals with a masculine tone to them, where it's not really a smooth floral but instead kind of earthy. So it's clean and pleasant, but without being soft. Distinctly old-fashioned. It's sitting in that space where if you put it in front of most people, they would likely not be able to point out any notes, and to me it doesn't feel like an interplay of notes like "oooh we have some basil but it's supported by lemon" or whatever - it's blended together into one where they all contribute, but I'm not really getting a note-distinction as much as I do with other fragrances. This is not a negative at all, but it's hitting that niche where you ask someone about how a man's perfume is meant to smell, and they'll think (or I would) think of 1. Nicolaï parfumeur - New York Intense 2. Tom Ford - Beau de Jour 3. Versace L'homme It reminds me of a slightly more woody/bitter-floral version of shaving foam, which isn't a bad thing because shaving foam does smell nice. Towards the dry-down I do get a very similar feel to Aramis (by Aramis) - this refined, masculine combination of leather and oakmoss is a very familiar scent, and very welcome.

I recently did a review on Dior Homme (2020 formulation) and as I wore that it kept reminding me of Versace L'Homme. I had to come back and put it back on🤤. Versace L'Homme is a perfectly masculine fragrance with a smooth, nonchalant dry down. It's my favorite Versace fragrance and it's affordable. It's the epitome of what a good fragrance needs to be: Balanced, Versatile and long-lived. I got 8+ hours from my wear and you can overspray this fragrance (wait about 30 minutes if you do the initial sillage can be nuclear). ☣️⚠️ The lasting sillage is noticeable but won't choke anyone out. [You'll be discovered, not announced.] It opens spicy and slightly "green" fresh. To some, it may have the lightest bit of a synthetic note initially, but you won't notice it more than 20 seconds or so. The mid is extremely light floral and just a light touch sweet. The drydown has a hint of leather in the background but the forefront is a vanilla and a very mossy amber. The amber helps with longevity and it's not overly musky. I picked my bottle up from TJMAXX for about $26 and it's money well spent. Versace L'Homme is a heavyweight and deserves way more attention and affection. This is a gorgeous fragrance. Scent: 10/10 Performance: 7/10 Value: 10/10 Overall: 27/30

This is by far my favorite Versace vintage fragrance for a myriad of reasons! Despite the harsh and pungent opening of the scent (which reminds me of a urinal cake or very mild lemon pledge), the dry down of this fragrance is where it really shines. The strong notes of lemon and basil transition into a very pleasant cinnamon, rose, and sandalwood. My favorite note, however, has to be the tobacco at the base of this fragrance; it pairs perfectly with the vanilla and makes for a perfect finish. Outside of the scent itself, the projection is also worth noting. I work a 9-5 in retail and use this religiously during workdays. I can always catch a whiff of the fragrance 4-5 hours in, and even some glimpses into the 7th hour or so. The presentation/bottle it comes in is very stylish and features nice, frosted glass on both sides. Functionally speaking, it has the BEST atomizer you will find on any fragrance bottle. Overall, I'll close with this: This scent is not for everyone. It can be super overpowering if sprayed too much, and if you're younger like myself, you may not like it. But if you want a classic masculine scent with that vintage 80s vibe that makes you feel like you're on Miami Vice, then this is the scent for you.

Wow! Theyve done a STUPENDOUS job with any reformulations theyve done to Versace L'Homme! Straight out the bottle its a BEAST, whereas usually these classic, reformulated fragrances almost always need to "Maturate" once air has been introduced into the bottle for the performance and actual scent to reach their full potential! Very nice! The very first note that hits me has to be that gorgeous, aromatic Basil! This DNA very much reminds me of Bogart's One Man Show, but Versace L'Homme is much stronger and longer-lasting. Also VL dries down quite powdery and the Musk in here is quite anamalic, whereas One Man Show is NOT anamalic. The leather note is more noticable in the dry-down of One Man Show and it also a bit more Piney than Versace L. The dnas are way more similar in the opening and early mid, but differ a lot at the dry-down so imo owning both is not redundant. Versace L lasts atleast 8 hours or more on skin and on clothes it last for days. Fantastic Job Versace! I highly recommend Versace L'Homme but ya nust like your classic, mens fragrances and ya must like anamalic musks. An 8 outta 10 within the Men's/Classics genre and TOTALLY worth more than the $30 or so you'llpay for this Classic/Powerhouse!

If you believe many reviewers, half the perfumes these days smell like pee and the other half like shit. Really? Some reviewers seem to have their noses permanently in a public toilet. Versace L’Homme is also being criticized: “pissy vibes,” “urinal cakes.” I don’t get it. I’ve been wearing this fragrance for years and am now on my third bottle. If this smells like pee, someone can tell me what paradise they keep their urinals in. To me, this is simply a very pleasant, classic men’s perfume with character, without gimmicks or flashy modern touches. As far as I’m concerned, this perfume hasn’t been ruined by the reformulation. My current bottle even smells better than my almost empty previous one. That last one, being so many years old, lacks punch in the opening. The citrus and green-herbal notes have largely dissipated there. But the drydown? It’s still spot-on. That drydown is precisely where Versace L’Homme shows its mettle: soft leather, oak moss, warm, clean, and masculine. This scent reminds me of bandages: slightly medicinal, clean, a little sweet, nostalgic. No, this isn't "urinal cake," this is old-school elegance, a classic fougère with backbone.

I got this from my dad when he was cleaning out his old closet, along with a plastic-y smelling Valentino perfume that I cant remember the name to. I smelled this and instantly loved it. Then bought a newer bottle as soon as I could, the older bottles seem to be a bit sweeter and not so soapy in the opening but nevertheless. Either way the perfume opens up very lavendery and soapy almost like a laundry detergent. But as soon as the opening fades away everything falls into place. The lavender calms down, the sweetness becomes more pronounced and because of the clean rose and jasmine it smells soapy and somehow manly. The other ingredients give it personality and it becomes an amazing perfume. Its a good signature scent as well, just not in the heat because it might be too much from the oakmoss, patchouli and musk for some. For me it doesn't last much more than 6h. but it projects the perfect amount, not too much not too little when on the skin. That said it definitely smells better when on the skin and its more suited as a regular night out or going out w friends, rather than a daily

nuclear strength, up in strength with the likes of sung homme and on man show i have no idea what people are talking about a "urinal cake" i do not smell that at all, on my skin this is a very sweet spicy powdery carnation rose tonka-vanilla patchouli bomb, i'm not getting much leather on my skin but on paper its more pronounced (thats where they animalic note is coming from i think) the citrus in this is similar to grey flannel, the top notes dont last long at all (wish they did) the opening is like a smoother one man show, but it changes to be more floral after an hour. this is from the 80s but this could definitely be released today. young but mature people could pull this off, def blind buy safe. be careful with the sprayer its a fire hydrant. people interested in 80s scents/moving away from modern scents or young people looking for something more old-school should start here i think. reminds me of lapidus pour homme and jaguar for men and drakkar noir, if you like lapidus and drakkar you will like this.

Green and spicy, Earthy, masculine, but rounded out and softened with a floral middle. It smells pretty much exactly how I imagined it would smell, a sort of textbook example of a well-done fragrance from the early to middle 1980s. If that's what you are looking for, this is that fragrance. It reminds of of Pasha with its spicy dryness, but it isn't as linear as Pasha, but sort of softened with those middle floral notes, listed as a carnation and rose accord. That makes it more wearable than Pasha, at least for me. Though it is dated in the sense that it is so representative of its era, it doesn't read as old to me, but more on the timeless side. It's a versatile fragrance that I would wear this anywhere, for any occasion, during any season. The quality is high. With only two sprays to my neck and chest, after four hours of wear, the person sitting in the passenger's seat of my car told me she liked my cologne. This one projects very well.

The oak moss, labdanum, leather and especially the musk are there up front, and throughout the dry down. The citrus gives it an old school, barber shop vibe up front. But this is an unapologetic 80's frag through and through. It is a less green, citrusy, slightly skankier Paco Rabbane P.H. to my nose. The only Versace I own since the various Eros frags don't so anything for my old man nose. I own probably half of the frags on the "People who like this also like.." list, so I'm not surprised I'm a fan. If you are 30 or younger, love aquatics or classic blue scents, just don't bother with this one. The frosted accents on the bottle and sprayer built into the cap are true retro. And the sprayer gives a generous dose every time. I began wearing this in October and will continue through into the Spring. Just go easy on the sprays when you start out. But the dry down is worth the wait. Classic 80's Affordable Italian Man Juice!

Funny story When I first got into fragrance, and my nose wasn't as acclimated to nuance, I thought Bijan was a chypre because it's so green and the sharper and spicier notes hid the tonka and lavender. As time went on, I smelled more fougères, and my nose developed, I recognized it for what it was. This is what Bijan was to me, when my nose was less acclimated to distinctions. There is a little tonka and vanilla there, smoothing things out in the base, but the prevailing features are the greenness, mossiness, and blend of citrus, spices, and spicy florals. If you like Bijan and like Chypres, this is affordable enough to be considered mandatory. The leather note is nice and nuanced, blending well with everything in the chypre cocktail. The verdant sharpness is wet and lush. It's a beautiful, classic kind of vibe, without being so vintage that it might alienate some wearers.

Don't listen to the "haters". You will miss out on one of the great ones! Versace L'Homme epitomizes the BIG '80's!!! Big hair, big ego's, big dreams, big everything! Everything was taken to the limit and then over the top. The music was big and LOUD! Heavy Metal, Hard Rock was the biggest selling music throughout the entire decade. Life was actually fun! Some of the coolest art, music, movies, TV shows, etc., etc., came out in the 1980's, and some of the most amazing and unforgettable FRAGRANCES were created and released. These powerhouses sold in the millions during that awesome decade. Versace L'Homme captures the spirit and excitement of the most amazing decade of the 20th Century. This is grandiose, loud, and extravagant. Kind of like the sound of the 1980's rock band RATT, but in liquid form!!!! In other words, this stuff is heavy, over the top and it KICKS ASS!!!

Brash? Undoubtedly. Old skool? Sure. Outdated? Quite possibly. Like a urinal cake? You can have that one on me. But how on Earth does this smell like an actual toilet? If citrus plus animalic base notes just say toilet to you then you are sadly missing out. Y'all enjoy yer tuberose bubblegum, eau de seaweed, or whatever regulation fruity-ass Creed clone you've just sourced from the UAE like everyone else. This is not my favourite fragrance or even my favourite leather one but it is still solid. Just pretend that it's not leather but leathery oud and therefore acceptably fashionable. Or pretend that Gianni Versace is Italian for Tom Ford. This will still have you smelling like a worldly-wise old lucky leather jacket as you tiptoe to the bar for your passionfruit Martini. Not bad after forty years. And it's cheap.

This fragrance is fantastic — it doesn't even come close to comparing with what is produced today, whether by the house of Versace or by other major designer names. As a member of the millennial generation, I must admit this perfume had never really been on my radar until now. I tried it for the first time in 2025, and I have to say — I'm genuinely impressed. This is vintage art in a bottle, created by master perfumer in a different era, when quality, innovation, and attention to detail were truly impeccable. Versace L’Homme is a serious fragrance, made for sophisticated men. From the very first spray, it radiates elegance, sensuality, refinement, and masculinity. I highly recommend it for businessmen, young professionals and men with a well-developed sense of style who know how to appreciate true beauty.

Its an old school Itallian citrus bomb. There is a spiciness that reminds me of Jaipur,but it leans more to the leather scent than Jaipur's powdery. Both are for the mature wearer who wants something different than the blue or sweet frags that have dominated the market for the last 30 years. I really honestly dont get the pissy/urine scent,but that's just me. Your skin might give off that scent when Versace is worn so maybe find a sample or decant. For what I paid ($20)for the full bottle it was worth the risk. I get a strong 10 hours and it doesn't take a lot of sprays. It worked in the winter and fall months and even in the spring as the slight warmth brings out the citrus notes. The summer might be pushing it,but by that time my bottle will be done. Im glad I took the risk on this one