Victoria's Secret
Victoria

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Acordes dominantes
- doce
- caramelo
- frutal
- rosa
- fresco
- lactônico
Pirâmide olfativa
Saída
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Coração
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Quando usar
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- Primavera: 17 votos
- Verão: 16 votos
- Outono: 13 votos
- Dia: 21 votos
- Noite: 6 votos
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- em inglês
There was a special price for the rollerball at VS today so I decided it couldn't hurt to have this casual fragrance on hand. One of the salesgirls had sprayed it on cardstock for me to sample and I thought it was nice. VS/BBW perfumes are rarely very complex and stay close to the skin so I don't expect anything otherwise. That being said, I enjoy them for light daytime fragrance. This one surprised me because, judging by its name, I thought it would be more of a generic warm vanilla scent. After the initial spray, it smelled very strongly of strawberries. In fact, "strawberry syrup" was about the only note I detected for the first minute or so...in a way that made me think that it's maybe better suited for a middle or high school girl. It later dries down to a more mellow strawberry smell with a nice hint of rose and creme brulee. The sillage is close to the skin and lasts on my skin for about 3-4 hours. Something strange (is it just me? the sweet scent playing tricks on my senses?) is that the perfume actually makes my skin tingle a bit and feel a bit sticky. Overall, it's a nice casual and girlish scent for warm summer days. I'm not quite sure yet if I'd buy the full size fragrance especially with summer coming to an end.
- em inglês
I got the EDP bottle of this, since VS was having a promotion of this fragrance and the bottle was only $15(orig. ret.$40). To be honest, I did not like it out of the bottle. I think I only got it because my nose had been messed up from smelling too many other scents(I had just come from sephora, b&bw and l'occitane), and I could not tell what it smelled like. I usually do not like sickly, sweet, scents, so I probably would not have purchased it if my nose had been working correctly. That is exactly what it smells like out of the bottle. Cotton-candy'ish and sweet, and kind of too heavy for me. However, the dry down is actually super pretty, and sweet and slightly floral in a subdued kind of way. I hate the initial blast of scent that it starts out with, but I think the scent is lovely midway through its scent cycle. Unfortunately, staying power is pretty bad. I can't believe it is an EDP! Most of my EDT's last longer than this! Good thing I got the mini bottle so I can carry around everywhere(doesn't leak!). It's definitely drawn compliments, and I will finish using this, but I won't buy it again.
- em inglês
I like a lot of Victoria's Secret scents (well...i guess not a lot but I do own Bombshell and VS Angels-Gold..) and I love this fragrance. It is sweet without being childish or too fruity and has a nice floral undertone with something edible like cream or vanilla (the creme brulee and caramel notes) ..at least to me. I think it can be worn any time of year. I wear it often ...it's not my favorite perfume but it's my favorite scent from VS at the moment. Bombshell was my fav from VS before this one. VS fragrances aren't known for longevity and sillage...so don't expect it to last all day. On me the sillage is ok, people around me can smell me if they are close enough to touch me. Longevity is about 2 hrs, but my body eats up most perfume anyway (with the exception of TM Angel...that stuff stays around even after washing!) They are still very nice perfumes for the price..usually under $40 when there are sales and coupons. But yes, this is quite weak....my only issue with it. :(
- em inglês
Althought this Victoria smells NOTHING like the vintage Victoria, it's still wonderful in it's own right. It's a lovely fresh scent with a underlying sweetness that makes it a tad warm. VS scents are always sexy, that's what they are good at. This has that fresh sexy vibe. This fragrance seems to be a nice crowed pleaser. When I wear this at parties or gatherings, I get many compliments. It's a soft skin scent but the scent lingers for me. I have the EDP. This works well in the heat and seems to project a lot more then. The bottle is STUNNING. I just love having it displayed however, I need to squirt some in a travel spray to throw in my purse because I would hate to break this bottle.
- em inglês
this perfume has a bright and tart smell of red berries throughout the entire wear, but is also grounded in this sharp caramelized sweet scent from the creme brûlée. the berries are so juicy and mouthwatering. the rose in this is very light and not heady at all as the red berries dominate this scent so much to my nose. it has this effervescent quality that I love to smell in fragrances. this doesn't last too long on me but has so much layering potential, especially in the summertime! I also cannot get over how adorable this bottle is omg.
- em inglês
I just got this tonight along with the lotion. It smells wonderful, very romantic. So far is lasting well on my skin. For some bizarre reason it seems to take a couple of days for a fragrance to get to know my skin and really grab hold with any kind of real longevity. Sounds weird I know But thats how Iit goes! !! All in all I really like this. I know they are saying its a sexy scent but so far on me its tres romantique!!!! I would definately recommend this. And btw I love my leggins and boots!!!!! :-P
- em inglês
Love this! I don’t get many of the notes listed above. It opened with a blast of delicious tangy fruit! Grapefruit, nectarine, and grapes. Maybe “red berries” means cranberries? Later I noticed the soft rose with a touch of maybe carnation. A beautiful mix but fades too quickly. I will definitely wear this again! 🌹
- em inglês
I love this fragrance. for me this is more like fruity than sweet. this is not a fragrance that will give you a boom headache. This is so subtle, fruity with mix of floral notes. 4.5/5 for me because the longevity is very weak :(
- em inglês
I love this version! I was able to track down 3 roller balls still in box for $5 a piece on eBay. This scent is gorgeous and it's the only thing even remotely close to my BBW breath Amber romance! Yummm
- em inglês
This smells soooo good:D i love the smell of this perfume... the caramel and creme brulè come out quiet strong, its sweet and such a lovely scent:) Really loooove this perfume<3<3<3<3<3
- em inglês
Victoria and Incredible are my top two favorite fragrances. I love it's red berries and soft creaminess! It is also a wonderful year round scent.
- em inglês
On me this is very warm and gourmand. I get the berries but its mostly sweet warm and yummy :D
- em inglês
I remember this smelling like Body by Victoria. (The old one.) Hmm.
- em inglês
the only perfume VS has put out that i actually like is Rapture... there have been a couple of limited-run body spray scents that are really nice, but all the other perfumes just don't do anything for me. but i love trying new scents, and so i always try them! this? based on the description and stated notes, i had no idea how it would go, and had very low expectations. very, very low. i LOVE the pink plastic bow on the bottle, though. it's so Perfume Pretty Barbie perfect! and the scent? i actually really like it! but it smells like Aspen. the cologne that was everywhere, when i was in high school, and that i actually quite like and wear occasionally myself. it's like a slightly feminized version of that same masculine cologne smell - but it works. or, to put it another way, it's kinda like how a snuggly blanket on the couch might smell, with a mixture of His-and-Hers fragrances mixed. surprisingly androgynous... and really, really nice! i will say that it's probably not going to go over well among their younger demographic. probably. but who knows? i like it, it makes me happy, i'm pleasantly surprised.
- em inglês
Just received Victoria after a long debate over whether to buy it and I think it's going to grow on me. I tried it a few times in the store and it didn't thrill me at all, but with all of those different scents floating in the air I don't think I had the chance to get the true nature of this scent. I have the body mist, so of course the longevity and silage are almost non-existent, but that's okay. This comes out on me as a blast of sourness that almost made me run to scrub it off, but then seconds later the delicious creme brûlée makes an appearance and thankfully that sourness disappears completely. Unfortunately, the whole thing disappears on me within an hour, but as I said I'm not upset about it since I don't expect a body mist to carry much punch. I might try this in the EDP form and see how it compares smell wise. All in all, not a bad fragrance for warm summer days and even nights.
- em inglês
This perfume is... just okay. When I first sniffed it on paper in the store, I thought it smelt delightful. When there was a Black Friday promotion going on last year, I got it for about $25 compared to the usual $52 and honestly, it's not worth more than that. The longevity is really bad, I mean, really... REALLY bad at only 2 hours. The note that stands out on me the most is the raspberry, apple, and red berries so so I get a bizarre sweet and sour scent. What a difference body chemistry makes... Sadly, I don't get any hints of the rose, the note I wanted the most. It's super light so it's best suited for the summer. Although it's not my favorite perfume in my collection, I'll use it on occasion in warm weather since I don't like to let perfume go to waste (unless it's horrendous like Sephora's Kiss The Girl).
- em inglês
Yet another instance of a gorgeous scent that I love, that neither lasts over an hour or projects. The rose, berries, and creme brulee is an intoxicating combination that I find to be much different than other VS fragrances I have tried thus far. i don't usually enjoy VS because the body sprays and perfumes have a distinct unenjoyable undertone to them, but Victoria does not. I think the money might be better spent on a lotion and body spray combo set over this perfume bottle even though the bottle itself is a lovely edition to a collection, it isn't worth the price. Update: So I sprayed more of the EDT on and tried clothes, hair, and most pulse points and the most lasting by far is in my hair. While it is practically gone from my shirt and skin, I still smell it strongly in my hair so take that as you will.
- em inglês
I picked up a body mist while shopping for other goodies at a recent sale. It's not something I'd commit to as a perfume but it's quite fun for a casual sexiness. I plan on using this for lazy weekends where I still want to feel fun and flirty without too much effort. I like to have guys smell my scents and give me their take because it's often insightful albeit novice, and for this one, my brother was over so I let him smell. His 'insight' -" It smells like the makeup and perfume counter at Macy's! Like, the left side, where the nicer more recent perfumes are." He then liked it so much he sprtized it to take a better whiff and said, "This is really nice!" There you have it. From a guy, this is a summation of nice scents put together. So, borderline generic but also very enjoyable.
- em inglês
If you're hoping this is anything like the original Victoria, it's not. I smell mostly berries in this, and only a hint of rose. I can see that this might be overly sweet for some, but I don't find it overly sugary. The sweetness is more like stewed fruit than just sugar. I guess this is the cooked sweetness of creme brulee. It has a warmth and mild sourness to it, and any floral notes are almost overwhelmed by ripe berries. It reminds me of Black Raspberry Vanilla by BBW. I was hoping for a sweet rose based scent, but this is definitely a berry based scent. I blind bought the rollerball, and that will be enough. I like this but I'm disappointed because I wanted roses, but I got berries instead.
- em inglês
This smells AMAZING. Unfortunately the lasting power and sillage are not so hot. I spray this like crazy and can finally smell it, and it doesn't last long at all. But it truly smells delicious, so I don't mind too much (but would probably not re-buy). I got it in a set by the way. The shower gel smells amazing also. The lotion smells ok, doesn't smell nearly as sweet as the perfume. Even using lotion and perfume together the smell is weak unfortunately. Great sweet rose smell though, so delicious. And not too sweet, for me at least. Editing later to say: very much like Angel eau Sucree but not as strong/lasting. Now that I have that one, can leave this one behind.
- em inglês
My brother gave me this for Christmas and I was a bit apprehensive as to whether I would like it or not. I haven't really tried any of the other VS fragrances. The opening to me is fresh, fruity and sweet. After the drydown I start to get sweet hints of caramel and soft creme brulee. It's a happy, comfortable scent and I feel quite pretty wearing it. Sillage is modest and I don't think you could offend many people by wearing it. Has enough freshness and lightness to wear in the summer, but I think you could wear it all year round. I like this little friend. It would be nice if it lasted a little longer. Spraying a little on my clothes helps to make it last.
- em inglês
asher.jessie not sure why your review had to become an attack on women in college who dress in what they find comfortable.... friendly reminder that shaming women for what they want to wear is a backwards and patriarchal behavior that should be eradicated. nevertheless this perfume isn't iconic or stately by any means. its a pleasant fragrance thats airy and fruity and its very reasonably priced in comparison to designer fragrances with the same notes. this would make a very easy gift as it wears well on everyone who ive asked and is likable.
- em inglês
I was finally able to have this perfume again and I really like this scent! Victoria smells so good and I really think that this scent is unique. This scent would probably be best in the spring because of its sweet but slightly floral nature. The only issue that I have with this perfume (and many of the VS perfumes that they carry now) is the lasting power. This one barely lasts 3 hours on me!! I wish this lasted longer but I still enjoy the scent.
- em inglês
This perfume smells so similar to Bombshell...Bombshell is more citrus-y but it has the exact same fresh, tangy tart scent..The only difference is that it's less sharp, more sweet and there are sweet gourmand notes added. I don't smell any rose at all. There are some floral type notes I guess but it's mainly fruity and a tiny tiny bit woodsy. It's really nice if you get tired of the overly sour tart scent of Bombshell.
- em inglês
The review is for the EDT. First of all the packaging of the EDT is extremely cheap. The plastic coating or lamination came off and the bottle is yellow now. But the Fragrance is amazing. It has fruitiness from the berries but the creme brulee and caramel makes it really sexy. However the EDT does not really last long or it could have easily been a signature scent. The longevity and sillage both are extremely poor.
- em inglês
i plan to buy this and i love the bottle... i'm sniffing the tester card right now, and the scent is still there after almost two days... i don't have strain to smell it, and the rose is definitely most dominant... it's a classy/special occasion/all seasons type of scent imo... my boyfriend likes this one, but thinks slt noir tease smells better- though noir tease is hardly detectable on me after an hour or so :(
- em inglês
My friend who lives in USA gave me sample of this and other 2 i like them and later i got all 3. This one smells so good very girly/womanly, sweet but crisp, very clean. This one and Bombshell are my favorite VS fragrances. The one thing i have to say about this is that is not very long lasting maybe 4 hours then need to spray again but despite that it is lovely fragrance and the bottle is just beautiful. 8/10
- em inglês
Sadly it seems they discontinued this (can't find it on the VS website anymore). This is a nice one - sweet, fruity, dessert-like. You can smell the berries and the vanilla sweetness of the creme brulee. This scent is very similar to Ariana Grande Ari. This one is a bit more tart/fruity than Ari (Ari is more creamy/sweet) but otherwise they're totally similar.
- em inglês
When I first smelled it, I thought it smelled of sweet grapefruits, expected to see some kind of citrus in the notes. Turned out it was rose with red berries. Can definitely smell the caramel in it though, which I like! Unfortunately it doesn't last long.
- em inglês
No red berries, more like peaches or nectarine! Can't really smell any rose, the gourmand vibe is there thanks to the cremee brulee, the opening can be sharp. Its almost identical to gold rush by paris hilton even though they dont share any notes!
- em inglês
This is a fine scent. I have it and used to wear it from time to time. HOWEVER- please add the original Victoria to the database! It’s a wonderful classic that deserves to be here (the best in the line). Thanks!
- em inglês
I like this, but I don't love it. I was excited with the notes and hoped it was a yummy crème brulee caramel explosion! It wasn't... it is more like a boring fruity floral. Le sigh.
- em inglês
This smells really good - BUT if you dont like sweet scents then you will hate this. I wonder if this is what the iconic Victoria perfume smelled like back in the day...
- em inglês
fresh sweet fruity summer time fragrance
- em inglês
I bought a mini of this for my wedding in 2014 and honestly, this is the most forgettable perfume of life. I don't hate it, I just don't care. I smell melons or something. I bought it to have "something" to throw in my bridal bag and it was cheap. I also knew nothing about perfumes, save for KVD's Sinner, Saint and Adora. Oh and some Nina Ricci thing I bought because I liked the packaging, but I digress.... This isn't a helpful review but I just sprayed it on my arm again and I have immediately forgot what it smells like. The Tetley tea I'm drinking smells more distinct. Nope, Perfect for entering the Witness Protection program, no one will remember you were even there.
- em inglês
First blast of powdery sweet rose and warm browned sugar. Very sweet and turns red fruity after a minute, still with the warm caramel at the base. The red fruit gains strength over time and keeps the scent fresh and a bit sharp too. It doesn't let the caramel take over with its sticky sweetness. Hawaiian fruit punch! That's what it reminds me of! Nice but I wouldn't want to walk around smelling like this. Feminine and best for temperate weather. 6+ hours later: The scent faded completely by the 4th hour.
- em inglês
So what if I speak my mind? If you get offended, that's your own fault. And my mind is quite open enough, thank you. After all, I DID walk into Victoria's Secret for the sole reason to smell and possibly purchase this fragrance..keeping in mind that I own (and love) several VS fragrances. However, I did not purchase it..because it's not for me, because it lacks the oomph for which the notes set the stage. My nose picked up nothing but enigmatic fruity sweetness...no rose, and no crème brûlée. I don't quite understand how my reviews are pissing that many people off. There's more to worry about than a sharp-tongue fragrance review, people. After all, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and I merely explained mine in a sharp-tongued fashion...because that's how I am. Victoria's Secret has plenty other wonderful fragrances that far surpass this. And that's all that I was trying to say. There's no need to get all emotional about a couple reviews on this website. Dear lord....
- em inglês
An incredible waste of money..this smells exactly like that dreadful Chloe perfume...boring, nondescript, and incredibly baseline. It's nothing more than the same fruity rose that we've see way too many times before, especially from Chloe and Givenchy's Very Irresistible. If you want Chloe, for whatever reason, then I guess you should go for this because it's not incredibly overpriced. The bottle is cute, although it's quite heavy and a bit clunky in the same fashion as the Victoria Secret Angel fragrance bottles (the ones with the frosted wings on the back). If you're a sorority girl that's devoid of personality, uniqueness, and nuance, this is the fragrance for you...because it'll cloak your skin with an unoffensive, weak, fruity sweetness that is just as interesting and diverse as your Ugg boots and leggings that you mistakenly wear as a substitute for pants.
- em inglês
I was actually kinda excited to try this one. I went out to one of our local stores to try it and I was so disappointed. I figured it would be very gourmand and sweet, but all I got was sour berries followed by more berries. The longevity was extremely poor too, but I wasn't expecting that to be great anyway. I really hate to write negative reviews, but this is just so generic to me; it smells like everything else. It's easily lost in the sea of other fruity concoctions out there. I really wish VS would just take a step back and put more time and effort in their frags. Not all of their creations are bad, but this one is in the "easily forgettable" file. :(
- em inglês
In my country Victoria's Secret scents aren't very common, except for the Fantasies Body Mists, so I was happy to find and try some others today. Unfortunately, this one didn't impress me at all. Victoria starts with a very sweet and synthetic generic red berry note and not much else. Too sharp. After the sharp berry blast there is a short time the gourmand notes come out, but I don't think I would have recognized this specifically as creme brûlée. Just a random pleasant sweet smell. After an hour or two there is barely anything to smell at all. I'm not someone to complain about lasting power all the time, but this is just too weak and boring.
- em inglês
I tested this scent out today at my local Victorias Secret and am completely saddened that my beloved Victoria has been replaced with this scent. It is not the original and extremely far from it. At first spritz all I got was grapefruit. That lasted a good half hour and then it settled into this weird candyish smell. It just didnt smell right. It was like an imcomplete fragrance. Somethings missing. Dry down to me was extremely similar to Chloe Narcisse. Im sad that Victorias Secret has ignored all of us customers who have begged to have the original back.
- em inglês
I don't pick up on the promised rose or creme brulee, as the berries are tart on me, and there is a strong grapefruit note [or a similar acidic fruit] that lingers throughout the fragrance, and it doesn't agree with my body chemistry - everything appears sour in here because of it. The plastic bow on the perfume bottle feels and looks cheap - mine snapped off after a few weeks. Victoria is a miss for me. A shame as I like sweeter fragrances, and so usually enjoy perfumes from Victoria's Secret as they give the majority of their output a sweet twist.
- em inglês
I smelled this in-store when I was 14 and fell in love with how it smelled! I found the bottle after cleaning out my old room so I thought I'd test this out again. I usually love sweet scents but this is just too much for me. It's sweet and syrupy red berries with a huge dose of rose. Very cloying and just way too much for my taste. Crazy how your tastes can completely switch up over the years! If anyone in Canada wants my 90% full bottle I'm willing to ship it! 2/10
- em inglês
got it for summer season and was very disappointed, as it doesnt last at all. this is not serious, even some VS brume perfumes last much longer. when applied onto the skin it has very strong alcohol scent, so i didnt feel creme brulee. this fragrance seemed fruity for me and a bit reminded of juicy couture. i don't recommend to buy it, try something better... this was't fake bottle, after that i tried it at vs stores and result was the same.
- em inglês
The smell is sweet and pleasant.However,due to poor sillage and longevity-this is just a like for me. Really wish for better sillage and longevity coz I really do like the caramel. Don't recommend buying this perfume.For the money,spend it on other perfume that have better sillage and longevity.
- em inglês
Smells like body odor. Sweat. Terrible. As much as I love Sexy Little Things both Tease and Noir or Angel, I dislike this the most. I spray it on and it smells like I haven't washed in 3 days. Yuck!
- em inglês
I received a rollerball as a little gift and was excited to try it. I always enjoy trying the new VS fragrances, the same way I like trying new teas or checking out the latest wildflower in my garden. I enjoy the process as I have mentioned before, as there are always new releases if I feel like smelling something new. One of my favorite noses is Annie Buzantian and she's done Breathless, Pink and So in Love (a really nice, warm rose scent). She's also done Pure Turquiose (one of my favorites ever) for Ralph Lauren. VS does use "real" noses from time to time and I know as I turn cards, I will find another gem. This isn't it, but it is still pleasant and the cute rollerball will be enough into fall as a purse pick-me-up. I like paulie86's view, I sometimes do a multiple marshalls/tj's purchases or "one good thing". I know we talk of fragrances and the emotions they invoke. I have to say on the legging tangent, that I have always thought that spandex was a privilege and not a right. I say that with a grin, be who you are, and if a fragrance brings you joy (no matter the "label" and uggs keep a smile on your face because your feet are happy, then "wear it well". I spend my days in a high powered profession, don't let the wildflowers and tea fool you. Fragrance is a way to relax, an outlet. It makes me sad when I feel the tartness coming through the flowers that are this forum. Sharing is the best part of people.
- em inglês
I just sampled this yesterday and my feelings are rather lukewarm. I was expecting a rose but what I got was mild fruity sweetness with gormand notes(kind of like one reviewer said). Once the initial note dries out, you get light sweet gormand that lays very close to the skin and doesn't project well. That seem to be the case for VS scents lately. I love and own several VS fragrances so I am not trying to hate on them or anything but I feel like their creative team took a permanent vacation. They are producing simular scents one after another with simular names. Especially since they had several scents already named "Victoria"-how about a different name for a change? This perfume smells nice, don't get me wrong, I would wear it, but I wouldn't buy it because I was feeling very meh about it. P.S.other people seem to be comparing this to Chloe Narcisse and Babydoll- this smells NOTHING like Baby Doll which is heavy on grapefruit and rose. Neither is it simular to Chloe Narcisse which sweet and heady 80s style floral oriental.
- em inglês
If a page is made for the vintage Victoria, I will hit love immediately!! I can't hit love for the new Victoria. Wow. The difference in scent is like night and day! I got a vintage Victoria in the mail today (a mini) and I seriously am blown away with surprise as to how much I love it, considering that the new Victoria version is my least favorite of the VS scents. It is so weak. Sweet in that annoying way, but fleeting and light and there's absolutely nothing to it. Vintage Victoria is rich, expensive smelling, sweet but in a very sophisticated and womanly way. Also, it is a very unique smell. I have never smelled anything like it. It smells like a sweet liquor, somewhat boozy, yes! A thick, dark raspberry syrup mixed with a decadent cream, but just a bit of cream. (and might I add- this is not a store bought cream- nothing synthetic here) This doesn't smell like an overly creamy scent. But that boozy, rich dark raspberry syrup (think Chambord). That is definitely there. P.s. And the vintage is long lasting!!
- em inglês
I'm lately exploring the Victoria's Secret range since it arrived here, too. Not 240 fragrances anyway! I think we get a much smaller collection. I'm not a fan of these perfumes, but I enjoy a few of them. Victoria is among my favourites because it doesn't kill my head with loads of fake fruits and sugar. How people came to consider fruit&sugar as sexy is beyond my limits. This one smells fruity, of course, but with a more acidic edge in the opening and gradually fades to a warmer and sweeter scent, not overpowering not sickening and vaguely elegant, considering our times. It's a happy perfume without deeper nor gloomy tones. The bottle is a combination of elegance and tackiness, but I don't care much for bottles as long as I like their content. This is something that I would wear for daytime with trendy clothes bought at commercial chain shops and feeling at ease among the crowds, especially the army of wannabe-casual-but-chic ladies from 30 to 40s as I often meet here. Not bad.
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